Here's my favorite bit from the comments over at the LJ text analysis site. Mary H: "Your sound as if you belong at Perugia Murder File (PMF). This is the site for people who want to insult the motives of the pro-innocence posters without actually engaging in substantive debate." I think ...

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I am again struck by the fact that she recalls being struck by a female, but when asked to identify her from the police women present she can't. This seems absolutely ridiculous to me. If something hits you your instinct is to turn and see who or what it was. She must know who it was. But she refuse...

I found his analysis really interesting and also liked the way he dealt with Doc Knowallski (aka Mary H) and the other Loon who published reams on Mignini , Well Skep, the FOA are going to be very upset about this, but that "other Loon" that was posting all the Mignini stuff has recently ...

I found his analysis really interesting and also liked the way he dealt with Doc Knowallski (aka Mary H) and the other Loon who published reams on Mignini , Well Skep, the FOA are going to be very upset about this, but that "other Loon" that was posting all the Mignini stuff has recently ...

It's not about food, it's about keeping her emotions in check. In therapy with young people who suffer eating disorders it is known that food - lack of, or excess of, is about repression or catharsis of emotion. Eating disorders can be associated with sexual abuse too. The emotions are situated, wh...

I found his analysis really interesting and also liked the way he dealt with Doc Knowallski (aka Mary H) and the other Loon who published reams on Mignini, which Seamus actually welcomed. He had a nice way of stating the more information from all over, the better, and generally just ignored pesky D...

They started talking about the constant references to food and eating but not what it means in statement analysis. That is one of the features of Knox's writing that has always baffled me. Almost everything is about eating or being hungry or having a stomach pains. And not simply as an aside but ra...

Michael wrote: Right now she's foaming at the mouth on that Seamus blog Where is the Seamus blog? I could use some comic relief. Here you go Skep: Seamus O Riley They started talking about the constant references to food and eating but not what it means in statement analysis. That is one of the fea...

"Amanda's Song - This Is What It Is All About What is Amanda's Song? It is a song adopted by Amanda Knox, the young American accused of playing a part in the murder of Meredith Kerscher , a British student. Amanda apparently sang this song for her Italian friends and it now available for downlo...

Oooo! Michael, the music player works now! Yay! What did you do?!

Does this mean we can all post music on here if we want? Or is Michael the DJ..?

That is truly OFFENSIVE

Macport wrote: But the new angle is to paint Meredith as being as dumb and as big a risk taker and as naive and as sexually promiscuous and as drug involved and as irresponsible and as narcissistic as Manders is. I don't think it makes any difference whether Amanda or Meredith opened the door. Howe...

AND..what's this little suggestion that AK had sex...."only once in the cottage, the police had to admit!" As if the police had nothing better to obsess on Anita Lolita's sexcapades in the cottage!! :roll: ------------------------------------------------------------- nnn-)) "L'ignora...

AND..what's this little suggestion that AK had sex...."only once in the cottage, the police had to admit!" As if the police had nothing better to obsess on Anita Lolita's sexcapades in the cottage!! :roll: ------------------------------------------------------------- nnn-)) "L'ignora...

Jooooools!!! Thank you so much for my cake!!!! Hem, I mean, please extend my humble thanks to Uncle Gigi. I have assiduously attended every single one of Dr SSA Capeladin's seminars, 'Who's That Trip Trapping?', and passed every module with honours, except the 'Tell It How It Is' module, which I fel...

and I can try to refute why I've reached the understanding I've reached. Shome mishtake, shurely? Watching someone discredit their own understanding is going to be ... interesting. Unless I'm frightfully behind the times and 'refute' is currently an American legal synonym for clarify / elucidate / ...

Could it be noted, for the PMF record, heretofore and not withstanding (help me out here SA) that upon this day The Bard did NOT welcome the Troll; nor did she be nice to him, verily even though he pretended hard to be a nice person; nor did she defend The Troll when he came to be outed as a Troll; ...

OT OT OT - while I am briefly on the topic of canines I have a Banjo Update! Apparently, on returning home he refused POINT BLANK to eat his horrible dry pellets at all, and they have been forced to go down the proper tasty dog food route! Yay!!! Not quite roast beef and gravy, but it's a start. A m...

SA, as you're, like a REAL lawyer...could you tell me what 'The Blue Book - A Uniform System of Citations' is pls? Just to help P9 out... It is actually an American style guide for legal citations of primary and secondary authorities in points and authorities, briefs, opinions, and law review artic...

Police reports on DUI arrest of attorney Bremner released "The King County Sheriff's Office released materials Tuesday related to the DUI arrest of Seattle lawyer Anne Bremner. The documents include two 911 calls from Bremner to report a flat tire, video of her at the precinct and incident rep...

OK, maybe not BF, Michael. But, of the same ilk. How many have we had in the last month? And why are they all so STUPID ??? They're a self-selecting group cape. Humourless, angry, transparent and unimaginative. I think PhanuelB is the quintessential FOA Troll icon. Whenever I think of trolls I will...

SA, as you're, like a REAL lawyer...could you tell me what 'The Blue Book - A Uniform System of Citations' is pls? Just to help P9 out...

..and this isn't...

This is a real Legal Beagle...

No way is he Bruce. He's just some idiot from the internetz tubes, probably sent by TS. Yawn... And terribly dull too...

Alright, since the bandwagon has jumped on, I shall address the bandwagon: I get it. I understand that I'm asking questions that you don't want to have asked, making connections that you don't want to have made, and that most of you agree with the logic and arguments of the prosecution in this case...

I think any serious student of this case is going to have no choice but to revisit his/her assumptions in the coming weeks, as the appeals process gets underway and new witnesses/evidence is brought forward. It might be best to prepare yourselves for this process by suspending some of your assumpti...

Yeah, Michael..but Sonny :( The song doesn't matter...It's the technical stuff that's important....testing that it works :) No workee Chrome 6.0.472.53 Groove is successfully awwwwnnnnn however in IE 8.0.7600.16385 Install the latest Flash Player for non-IE SA: Flash Player 10.1.82.76 (Non-IE) Stil...

I'm so glad you didn't post the actual photo of Rudy's poo. It's teatime here in Blighty :) Although my limited puter proficiency does include photo shopping, out of concern for the Queen's subjects' digestion of as you say tea, as well as accompanying krimpets and scones elevated to mouth with pin...

TEST: http://www.perugiamurderfile.org/download/file.php?id=2284 Hi everyone, this is a test. I could use some help. I need to tune the board, no pun intended. Could you please click on the play button of the player and confirm whether or not you hear music? No hear After F, and then play triangle ...

Hi Skeptical Bystander, You wrote: "But the forensic evidence does not support the hypothesis that Rudy staged the break-in. No trace of him - and more importantly - no trace of him mixed with Meredith's blood - was found in that room. But AK did go into the room; there is a mixed DNA sample. ...

He may have hung out with the boys downstairs, but I have to agree with Skep that a cautious, sensible girl - which we know Meredith to be - would absolutely NOT let a relative stranger into her home after dark. It would be totally out of character, and foolhardy. Meredith was not, unlike Amanda (tr...

Foot in mouth. The Perfect Storm. Moore is turning out to be just about the worst possible news for Amanda. Bruce cultivated this guy you know. Way to go to Bruce - you're actually, positively, from the guarded but crystal-clear words of her own lawyer, hurting her case. That is some achievement. I...

On the other hand, the good thing about Trolls is that it does show up how incredibly weak their arguments and reasoning are. Have yet to see P9 score a single point, just a lot of weak nonsense. If this is the best the FOA have to offer then this campaign is going to peter out due to lack of oxygen...

From the LA Times in 2005: http://articles.latimes.com/2005/may/03/nation/na-counter3 "...The coroner's office ruled Doucette's death April 29, 2003, a suicide. Those who knew him say the relentless pressure of working counter-terrorism helped push him over the edge ... After Sept....

The repeat presence of these aliasing innocents, one after another, is clearly some sort of campaign with the following objectives (feel free to add); Disrupt the posting on the board: Interpretation - FOA feel insecure about the content and analysis that is created here - thanks for the testimonia...

Thanks for the reply, The Bard, I've been interested in this case off and on since the beginning, and I can appreciate your perspective on wanting to honor Meredith. In your reply, you state that the evidence demonstrating the guilt of AK and RS is "overwhelming." All I'm looking for is a...

Help me understand. From everything I've read up to this point, it seems that AK and RS couldn't have been involved with this murder. I don't have any reason to want to believe in either the guilt or innocence of either of them. I don't know them, and I have no nationalistic impulse to care where t...

OTOTOT I promise I won't mention this any more but there's a very short video on youtube showing a little excerpt of the Gustav Mahler orchestra's performance at the BBC proms in London last week...my daughter appears in the lower right-hand corner starting at 0:35, the orchestra's playing is incre...

I too find your post absolutely superb, Catnip I think this board does Meredith and her family proud to be honest. We have such wonderful, funny, humane and erudite posters here. I love the outbreaks of silliness as they make me think of aspects of Meredith - her humour, which was spoken of so fond...

In the spirit of a menagerie lion :) running around the centre of the Earth*, I can declare myself to be from Ethics (a county in England) and I write articles in Heraldry etc. I post here a report I found about how the judges hit Amanda. She’s a victim. It would never happen here. – Nick Squires i...

What about the charge of Anti-Americanism? This is pure racism! The level of xenophobia on display by Steve Moore and the FOA is staggering!

Popper wrote: Your daughter must be very talented, that orchestra is the best of the best... OT OT She is an incredible, amazing cellist and a beauty and I am so lucky.... BTW to answer a previous question of yours, my grandfather's grandfather, Emilio De Marchi, was the novelist, and we are partic...

thoughtful, she looks just like you!!!! Pretty, talented and IN ITALY...jealous, moi?

Have a lovely, lovely time! Will await your stopwatch timings!

Just on the subject of looks and innocence etc etc, I am tonight reminded of 'our Cheryl' - so sweet, so pretty....isn't she gorgeous. NOT! Charged with racially aggravated assault against a black female toilet attendant Sophie Amogbokpa, following an argument over lollipops, in Jan 2003, Cheryl Col...

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This ANSA article has quotes from Ghirga on Steve Moore: Meredith: For former FBI agent Amanda is innocent. Ex G-Man Moore: contaminated evidence, I would send my daughter to her. ''I do not know who this Steve Moore is, I don’t know him and I prefer not to comment on his statements'' : this is how...

I am surprised that Steve Moore wishes to be associated with a group that blame the victim of this crime for her fate. On Frank's Cess Pit some anon FOA is doing just that - suggesting that Meredith 'messed up badly' and that her parents are maliciously pursuing a prosecution against Amanda. It begg...

Is there anything at all that can be done about confronting this Steve Moore on his BS? I'm serious. This is not only offensive but getting way too ridiculous to let this man continue his parade/charade unchallenged. Why don't you contact him directly via Bruce Fisher's email address on Bruce's web...

Oh pik....you have surpassed yourself!!!! The crown of ties!!!!!!! Love it!

Or does he have to be on Italian soil when he says these things. (Damn, there goes the free holiday to Italy for him and the wife). I am intrigued to know why it is that Curt and Edda are being hauled before the beak, and Steve can call Italy's justice system corrupt and incompetent on national tel...

Ava. I think that you will find that my superior officer called her Anita in a drunken attempt to get funding from Donald Trump, so that he could be part of a rescue mission. Perhaps the FOAKers are seeing that this could be the only way to get her home, judging by Moore's comments. This is the off...

Donald Trump didn't bite, si I'm back I'm afraid. I managed to get my Colonel to go for the free tickets and here is his comment: "Thank God, someone is doing something about this case. I am a retired Colonel in the U.S. army and although I am quite elderly and infirm. I am willing to get on t...

I thought it was ignorant question if Steve Moore would testify at the appeal hearing. Arrogance or ignorance? Although, it did put Steve Moore on the spot of admitting he was of no consequence to the appeal. Steve Moore's an idiot...either that or he's dishonest, it's one of the two. He asserts Kn...

From Corriere Della Sera: Amanda, nuove accuse dagli Usa: [b]«Prove manipolate per farla risultare colpevole» Un ex agente dell'Fbi, che ha svolto indagini private, alla tv americana: «L'assassino è Rudy Guede» [/b] Amanda, new accusations from the USA: “Evidence manipulated to make her be guilty” ...

Thanks for the heads up, BT Yes, the 'planted evidence' is a 'bombshell' of another of his favored mega-misstatements. But notice how the carefully way it is parsed really makes it a "nothing about nothing" sort of thing (that certainly should not get the Sky headlines). Moore carefully s...

The tie is worse than bad. The hair-do is suspect, too. Oh, dear. Sky News headline "Amanda Knox 'Victim of Planted Evidence'" Moore would seem to be the sacrificial moron. No John Q Kelly available to make the outrageous evidence planting claims? (btw his performance was terrible, in my ...

Hi Bard. Glad you enjoyed the Merengue dog. Michael has not responded :(. Kidding... I loved the merengue dog. But I couldn't have one, especially in a little skirt...the neighbours would talk. The little skirt was the best bit! She was so pretty too, cape, and her little tail wagging away. Bless h...

Hi Marc - I am disappointed to be honest. I really thought you wanted to stay and discuss things. But you have decided I see. Well, fine, as we always say, we're not here to persuade anyone. One thing does really leap out at me from your explanation however. You don't allude to the fact that Rudy h...

OT/ Has anyone seen the dog dancing to Merengue on utube? It's UNBELIEVABLE!! Stop skipping! Nobody's even commented on my amazing scuba diving cat yet, not even Bard :( Michael, I loved your Scuba Diving Cat, thank you. I was looking for something to respond with, but cape has come up with somethi...

Do you mean this one???? Love love love the Merengue Dog!!!!

Yeah, Myra really loved her puppy.

The way I spell newcommer? Really? I accept that having a thick skin on this board is par for the course, but I'm not going to disrespect myself by responding to that. For the record I am not a "Propamandist." I am not on the Knox family payroll. I am not associated with any of the groups...

I've never met an American I didn't like, they are really a great bunch of people down there ... Totally agree. Every American I have ever met has been polite, kind, incredibly helpful and immensely respectful. I have been to the States twice and was enchanted by the nature of the people there - so...

It seems to me there must be some serious journalists, newspapers and television, in the USA. I mean we have far more than our share of hacks and rags: and life is harder for serious journalists than it used to be I think. But there are some: and we are much smaller than America If there are, why a...

POOP POOP!!! ALL ABOARD THE XENOPHOBIA TRAIN!!!!! "Moore... slammed Italian authorities for their initial interrogation of Knox, which he likened to tactics used by " third-world intelligence agencies." He pointed to her being questioned for hours, from about 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. when s...

POOP POOP!!! ALL ABOARD THE XENOPHOBIA TRAIN!!!!! "Moore... slammed Italian authorities for their initial interrogation of Knox, which he likened to tactics used by " third-world intelligence agencies." He pointed to her being questioned for hours, from about 10 p.m. to 6 a.m. when s...

Amanda Knox is Innocent of Brutal Murder, Retired FBI Agent Claims Knox Hopeful That Upcoming Appeal Will Set Her Free After Three Years in Italian Prison By NIKKI BATTISTE and SARAH NETTER Sept. 2, 2010 ABC NEWS Yes, but first she has to avoid being convicted of slander in October! POOP POOP!!! AL...

Sometimes it's so confusing. Because I did lose a friend when I was a kid. She was seventeen, in a car with her boyfriend, and she was killed in the crash. I didn't know what to say to her mother, and they lived next door. She was very brave I remember, and I never saw her cry. But she got thinner a...

I think two days in jail is a gift for her...think of all the trade she can drum up in there. You mean she will actually be able to work in the legal profession again after this??? Seriously? I thought the last bit was wishful thinking on her part... SA, you're right. I am just a totally useless cr...

I think she was reading from the paper because she was shaking so much. Couldn't you see? I think it was sincere. I think her actions prior to this were the desperate actions of someone who knows they have just blown their whole career and reputation out of the window. She was desperate, and she has...

If, as reported, she tried to pretend she was injured; refused to cooperate with the police; tried to bully the police officer; tried to claim her insurance (assuming it is void if she is drunk); and then, only when all else failed, confessed I cannot see it as anything more than an attempt to mini...

Whilst I can understand the anger expressed here, I for one am glad that Anne has taken responsibility for her actions, and is taking the punishment for her crime. I hope she will get help for her problems now. I do think she is extremely foolish, but mental health and alcohol problems are extremely...

I am sure that Bruce and Charlie have both said they have had access to the autopsy records, as has Frank. Does this mean they are all breaking the law? I don't think they are breaking the law if they have it from a legitimate source. Which can only mean Knox's attorney. But they are braking the la...

As for the photo of Amanda and Chris, I’m torn between “that’s another fine mess you’ve got me into” and shit head meets dick head. Can you see what I did there Bard sometimes your just to polite My caption was MUCH ruder than that...I think it would even have made a soldier blush tbh...we're a bit...

In addition, the claim he had accessed and read the *entire* documentation, autopsy reports, photos, interrogation, is utterly, totally ridiculous. He could have accessed this doccumentation only via Knox Italian defence lawyers. And we know he never met not even with the Knox family, at least not ...

But Steve is working with Bruce, who does have access to all that material. So perhaps he had indeed seen the papers. I doubt there is just one copy of them. They will have been copied and passed to supporters, surely. That must be how Charlie and Frank have them.

Did I hear Steve Moore correctly--when he was commenting about the evidence? He mentions it's "like looking at some bad dream." Then the reporter asks whether the evidence submitted at the trial "should have been..."(admissible in a US Court) Moore interrupts with "...SHOUL...

No, it's really rude...

Hi katy, This one is pretty much flogged to death, time to move on. No? A serious question; is there any chance that your crowd are going to give us a reasonable English translation of the AK & RG appeals. A simple YES on NO will be fine if you are in a hurry. Thanks. H Great question, Ham But ...

Okay how about a new competition for the day. PUT A CAPTION TO THIS PHOTO!! This is one of the gems I found the other day and I just can't quite get over it somehow. http://perugiamurderfile.org/gallery/image.php?album_id=17&image_id=1769 Here's my little shit head mouthy and loud. ...

Does this circumlocutionary style sound at all familiar???? There's even a circumstantial in there for kadeeeee... "...I also recollect an instance of the deliberate coolness of a man who was tried and found guilty of the robbery and murder of a farmer; being asked if he knew his accomplice, he...

Cia Bella, What's also curious is how quite a few of them appear to have friends that got hit by a bus and all had same strange behaviour as la_) This is like the Cagney and Lacey show. What a double-act! Another one would be so BORING though. My problem is always to underestimate how unimaginative...

Cannot resist sharing this gem from justinian2 on another board. Yes, I believe it is that same distinguished and well known recent winner of the esteemed 'thanks for stopping by' medallion. He now wears that proudly around his neck for the adulation and cheers from his latest neighbors who initial...

Fiona wrote: I certainly think that it is possible to undress in the bedroom if that is one's habit: But I have some trouble reconciling that with forgetting one's towel.... Exactly. Especially if you think someone might come in through the front door any second, including while you are undressing ...

Great one cape!!!!!

Amanda is insistent of telling us how Raffaele cleaned her ears for her (at his flat, of course). I was wondering tonight if the mundanity of the object of the Q-tip is lodged in her mind because she can recall standing in the shower at the cottage with him as they cleaned each other comprehensivel...

Newcomers don't usually jump on messageboards with a whole list of blabla that they just learned after 1 day of reading (no sources of course). On other boards, first posts are usually very short. Simply because if you respect the board then after a little reading you will realize that most questio...

The oddest thing about the email - which I have been re-reading with the statement analysis by Seamus O Reilly - is that she says she got undressed in her room. IN HER ROOM???? I have lived in an unheated house in winter, and I can tell you there is no WAY you get undressed before you have to in a ...

The oddest thing about the email - which I have been re-reading with the statement analysis by Seamus O Reilly - is that she says she got undressed in her room. IN HER ROOM???? I have lived in an unheated house in winter, and I can tell you there is no WAY you get undressed before you have to in a ...

Phrase of the Day : Sexually short-changed. Stint7 The oddest thing about the email - which I have been re-reading with the statement analysis by Seamus O Reilly - is that she says she got undressed in her room. IN HER ROOM???? I have lived in an unheated house in winter, and I can tell you there is...

Newcomers don't usually jump on messageboards with a whole list of blabla that they just learned after 1 day of reading (no sources of course). On other boards, first posts are usually very short. Simply because if you respect the board then after a little reading you will realize that most questio...

While we are on the subject of the Gallery, I am reviewing all content at present. Could I just remind people that: The Crime Scene folder is for crime scene AND evidence, including forensic. Any pictures of defence and prosecution lawyery types should go in the ILE folder. Don't forget there are su...

The older version is in the Gallery, but this one will be a fine companion piece. Why not go for a triptych?!

Honestly, I'm coming round a bit. A big issue for me, evidently from my first post, is that psychologically I didn't find it credible without any prior evidence to support such a terrible attack, but, missrepresented.net makes it more plausible to me. I also read that Amanda spent every night at Ra...

p.s Marc, one tip: it would be considered 'good form' to respond to Fiona's points in as much detail as you can, as she has taken time and trouble to address your points in detail herself. It shows goodwill and will show that you are serious about engaging in debate rather than just making bald unsu...

Marc, nice of you to introduce yourself. You'll get a bit of a rough ride with those viewpoints, as SA warned. You need to mug up on some of the past conversation threads on the board to find the answers to a lot of your questions. There is an excellent board called 'Lies Our Mother Told Us' which i...

Piktor! Love love LOVE your work! Another one for my wall!!!! Keep 'em coming!!!! Incidentally what you have actually depicted is what I suspect is going on every night in fact. Mungo seems to be organising some kind of underground political movement. I heard him mutter 'non-violent direct action' u...

Will the real Steve Moore please step forward. Oh and: " I will not accept a dime for anything I do on this case . When Amanda Knox goes home to her family, you will never hear from me again. It is up to the reader whether they want to put more faith in my experience, training and motives, or t...

Thanks for the head's up, Bard. However, he may not want to leave!! Lucky brother, to have such a kind and caring sister. Bard, when your brother yells at you for spoiling his dog-a-doo, or complains because dog-a-do no longer wants to eat that hideous dry food and nothing else, just smile and remi...

ALERT FOR PACIFIC NORTHWEST TELEVISION VIEWERS! tu-)) Steve Moore has "made it his mission in life to set Amanda Knox free" so the KING5 News dramatic spoiler tells us, and he will tell us all why she is innocent of the murder of Meredith Kercher. Tune in to Monday night's 11:00pm news br...

OT OT, Banj Update: Today I gave Banjo a piece of roast beef, with gravy. He nearly exploded with happiness! He's finding his doggy identity. He even slept in his own BED last night for the first time ever . Remaining gravy mixed with his dry food. He's now up to two little meals a day. Today he dec...

I think the one thing that you're forgetting here is that it is our government that was responsible for this disaster. They knew that the levies needed repairs and that a tremendous disaster would occur. However, corrupt city officials kept their fingers crossed that this would never occur. Plus, y...

Michael, thank you for posting that clip. It is absolutely staggering that something like this can be aired. Do you remember the outcry when Nick Griffin was allowed to appear on Question Time? The hard time he got from everyone? How this sort of bigot can be tolerated just beggars belief. I recall ...

It is entirely laughable to me that anyone would take seriously the musings of flakey poser, Amanda Knox, on matters such as 9/11 or even spirituality. As if she is some kind guru or is some how enlightened. I suppose the groupies will take it all to heart as some kind of gospel. The whole thing se...

You mean like when Girlanda said at the legal conference that they should do it again and the next time he hoped they would have a very special guest i.e. Amanda? Yes, I read that bit in various US websites. Observations: 1) large Italian papers do not mention this bit. Nor does Girlanda's website ...

Another "teaser type" author's quote about upcoming book release: "I describe in the book the deep differences between her distorted media image and her real traits" Girlanda said. http://www.italiausa.org/index.php?lang=en ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Forgive me if I consider this to be ...

http://www.girlanda.org/public/image/grafica_girlanda/rocco_home1(1).jpg Fun facts about Rocco: 1) He's married with FIVE children!!! (Mamma Mia!) 2) He's a member of the PdL (Berlusconi's political party--center-right-wing) 3) On August 14 of this year, he handed the sashes to the ...

Oh dear: some poor social worker will have to assess her :( I think it will be quite straightforward Fiona. Social Worker: Hem...so Amanda...is there anything that you'd like to tell me about why you'd like to adopt a baby, and why you think you'd be suitable as a parent? Amanda: Well, I was like a...

Ciao, Bard, Actually, a puppy's tummy is rather delicate. A big chicken or steak dinner would probably upset it. A few bites to make the "disgusting dry dog food" more palatable would be a better idea. My pooch insists on a little people food with his dinner, but too much causes digestive...

Weow, the new book is all over Seattle news sites already--Seattle PI, King-5 and Komo TV. Komo features a nauseating photo of Knox with hands folded in prayer looking saintly. I wonder if Mr. Ghirlando's foundation hasn't already received a donation from a certain PR firm? Just read The Guardian a...

This is him! As you can see he is alternately anxious looking or asleep! Thanks for the advice Skep - I'd dearly love to do that, am just scared of upsetting his tum. They feed him this revolting dry food that I am not surprised he doesn't eat frankly. Dogs need meat!!! He would love a juicy rat I a...

Ciao, Bard. I must tell you that I have received a pm from Mungo. He was upset that you went to Provence without him, and then very put out that you followed that to a trip to Rome. But NOW!! an untrained puppy!!! Sleeping in YOUR BED!!. What kind of a hare brained mistress are you??? Nothing will ...

The Bard wrote: My God, she really is delusional isn't she... Hello, Bard dear, delighted to see you back and having had a marvelous time. r-(( r-(( Erk - about the dog. Quite right to let Mr. Bard deal with it. That is what husbands are supposed to be for. (At least partly.) Returning to the subje...

Welcome back Bard! I just booked a cruise from Rome in 2011! Woohoo! Cannot wait to return! Such a beautiful country. Please do share your tips. I have many of the same photos but would enjoy hearing about places to eat/stay/see just in case we missed something last time. I must say that it won't m...

Ciao, Bard. I must tell you that I have received a pm from Mungo. He was upset that you went to Provence without him, and then very put out that you followed that to a trip to Rome. But NOW!! an untrained puppy!!! Sleeping in YOUR BED!!. What kind of a hare brained mistress are you??? Nothing will ...

PERUGIA NEWS DIGEST 27 AUGUST 2010 Rudy Guede's appeal to the Supreme Court of Cassation will begin on 16 December 2010, say his lawyers, (n1) and be heard by Section I of that court (n2). Rudy is currently in Mammagialla, the prison in Viterbo (n3). His lawyers will be asking for an acquittal (n4)...

Aug 28, 2010 5:02 am US/Central Amanda Knox Tells Lawmaker She Wants To Adopt NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer ROME (AP) ― Amanda Knox, the American student convicted in Italy of murdering her British roommate, has told an Italian lawmaker in a series of jailhouse conversations that she hop...

Oh my Good god. It is 5.21 and the dog has just been sick in the bed. I can't cope. I have turned a cowardly deaf ear and left a most dis-chuffed Mr Bard to deal with it. It's like having a real baby again...

Talk about back to earth with a bump!

Welcome back Bard, you have been missed. Thank you for sharing your wonderful pictures, what a breathtaking experience that must have been. I am sorry you were ill on your trip and I hope you are feeling much better by now. r-(( Regards, DJL Awwww....thank you DJL! How kind! I was fine really. Just...

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Fast Pete. That is good news indeed. I'm not good at linking , even though I have been given so much help from friends here. However, I am confident that many here will contribute. And I thank them in advance. Because so many step up to the plate when needed. Well, not Bard this week, as is busy ha...

Am off for a few days, on a free trip to....ROMA!!!!!! (Good old Airmiles...) I am so excited! Have never been before and feel quite overwhelmed by the number of things there are to do. Where to start???

I've been thinking about the assumption that Amanda will be raking in cash upon her eventual release. I'm not too sure about that one. My own suspicion is that most of the money to be made off of this will be gotten by her family, and most of that in the next few years. All news stories have a fini...

Don't forget Katsgalore and Greggy :) Daaaaaim! They were on my list too...I just mis-wrote. This is the same as the Clintonesque 'mis-remembered' i.e I made a mistake but I am not going to admit it. In her case it was a lie, and her euphemism is almost as toecurling as her husband's weasel words s...

ADMINISTRATOR NOTE: I have now made a copy of the Massei Report Translation thread available for public perusal to ensure the process is completely transparent. The only edits I have made to the thread is to remove the personal/private details of those who took part. The rest is 'as is'. Yo...

Mac, that's a classic! Someone once called him the George Clooney of the rabbit world. I think Hollywood beckons...

Oh, Bard..Mungo looks so Euro chic and SVELTE!!!!!!!! He's so adorable, I could just eat him up.....:):):) Ooooooo, cape...someone once said to me that the way to a woman's heart was through complimenting their child. With me it's the bun. He is adorable, isn't he! I like the phrase 'Euro chic and ...

I see. I, too, have sympathy for the Kerchers. I do not think them vengeful, however. Nothing can bring Meredith back. I do not feel as you do: for me, no matter what anyone has done, I do not find any comfort in punishment. What I hope for, is that when all this hype and horror is over, they will ...

OT OT, Post on behalf of a third party : Message for Michael. (Michael, look at his little down-turned mouth...as my Italian friend Fede says 'You crasha his hert..')

Pardon the intrusion, just wanted to leave a quick thank you to Catnip for that summary. First I have seen on this particular document, look forward to the translation. oh gosh, I thought you said you were sorry for the intrusion, but I see that is not true. I was going to say that I was sorry too....

Pardon the intrusion, just wanted to leave a quick thank you to Catnip for that summary. First I have seen on this particular document, look forward to the translation. oh gosh, I thought you said you were sorry for the intrusion, but I see that is not true. I was going to say that I was sorry too....

‘Meredith Murder: Colin Firth and Michael Winterbottom want to make films’ Perugia, 20, August 20 (Adnkronos) - Actor Colin Firth would be thinking of London, with director Michael Winterbottom to make a film about the murder of British student Meredith Kercher, killed in Perugia on November 1, 200...

Very interesting Catnip. Absolutely STUNNED at the weakness of these 'grounds for appeal'. Totally insipid eg. 1. they were nice kids realllllly; (huh?) 2. they felt sarweeee for Meredith when they'd finished because they covered her with a duvet, which was quite nice of dem, you gotta admit... (WH...

'female solidarity'??? Amanda??? ROFL....

Thanks to RoseMontague. PROSECUTION APPEAL TIMELINE 4-5 December 2009 Court of Assizes in Perugia hands down its verdict “una vera e propria doccia fredda a Seattle” (a real and true cold shower in Seattle) – [ TuttOggi ] Perugia - 05/12/2009 00:10 The public prosecutors . “Our submissions ...

Where's Bard got to? Still alive! But been buzzing around helping someone move (I know, I am nuts...) and following up various book info. Have been having fascinating discussions about the nature of translation funnily enough, with Linguistics Prof. He reminded me of a quote about translation, whic...

Fiona, I think they kept mentioning it because a) they considered it a quite brilliant move b) the thought it would make them appear innocent. I take your point about the 'newness' of the mop head. I wonder if the girls were asked if it chimed with their memories of it. Those mops do end up looking ...

SA - Moptastic!!! The theory may have been explored before, but I for one don't recall it. It's elegant and plausible and they nearly pulled it off. If ONLY they hadn't kept banging ON about it. The conflicting accounts of the amount of water are fascinating too. It's these minute details that get l...

I have to admit a bit of a let down the Knox/Mellas circus has not taken to the airwaves since the availability of the translated report. If there was a public interest, the mainstream media would have been all over the story. If there was any possibility la_) was an innocent abroad, the public wou...

The recent arrival en masse of Bruce zombies and subsequent disruption have been instructive in this regard. The ethos of this board, unlike that of other forums, can be compared to the underly philosophy of a truth-seeking system of justice as opposed to an adversarial one. I know that some here h...

He'd be toast..! Oh, it would be a dream...

I wonder if Raffy used those Brillo pads to scrub the knife...

but I did think the "staring at her delicate hands" thing was a little strange. What do others think? It may well be a soft soap to keep the right parties on board while he finishes the book. . my impression of the article as a whole is more the sense of: do you really think someone like ...

Hello. Is there room for one more at the table? In recent days I've been passing the time battling Mary H. and the hobgoblin forces of darkness at the "West Seattle What's-It-Now." Apparently, unable to love Amanda and to see the goodness and purity in her, I am consigned to the status of...

There was a fascinating documentary on BBC1 on Monday evening, about two sisters who ran into the path of oncoming traffic on a motorway. Amazingly they survived, despite being hit by a lorry and a car. One even got up and lamped the policewoman who was trying to help her. After brief hospital treat...

I missed the Sunday Times, windfall... what was the point of the article on Amanda? hi. I'll try and summarise briefly. Follain bases the article around a visit to the prison and observes Amanda at mass (a Christian one, Giuliano, OK? Just kidding). First para, "The young woman who was once ca...

and here's a little slice of infamy (note the date and time)... Thanks SA. That puts to bed the claim by Charlie Wilkes elsewhere that on the 4th, during the vigil, Amanda and Raffaele were having dinner at one of Raffaele's friends (which might, conceivably, provide an excuse for their not being a...

And am I really the only one who read that article in the Sunday Times? I don't read Murdoch trash unless it is for work. I would certainly not give the man money unless it was entirely necessary. You are reading it for work, therefore you are given a 'Get Out of Jail Free' card. Please tell us wha...

Oh one other thing - we had lots of conjecture that the reason Raffaele might have had to return the knife to the drawer was because maybe it wasn't his and he might have to account to the landlord for it. Nice to see this closed off and confirmed in the middle of the flat inventory signed by the l...

Oh one other thing - we had lots of conjecture that the reason Raffaele might have had to return the knife to the drawer was because maybe it wasn't his and he might have to account to the landlord for it. Nice to see this closed off and confirmed in the middle of the flat inventory signed by the l...

Sunday night question; courtesy of the video; how many cloths and sponges with which you could usefully mop up a spill are directly under the sink within centimetres of the broken pipe, occupying the very same cupboard? Answer: http://tinyurl.com/2e9d2ez !!!!!!!!!! (two are in a packet if you look ...

Ok I am now feeling REALLY guilty about not allowing the baptism of fire to go ahead. Moonbeam is a twonk. I don't know what that is, but he IS one. Asking SA to cite is just L A Z Y and incredibly boring. Get clued up before you come and play with the big boys mood. You are an embarrassment to your...

Re Yummi - Meredith did not know Guede ( paraphrasing - I know you did not say exactly that) [Giacomo Silenzi] .. had had a romantic relationship with Meredith, which had begun a couple of months before she was killed .. … He had known Rudy Guede since the year before …. (via the basketball court)....

Re Yummi - Meredith did not know Guede ( paraphrasing - I know you did not say exactly that) [Giacomo Silenzi] .. had had a romantic relationship with Meredith, which had begun a couple of months before she was killed .. … He had known Rudy Guede since the year before …. (via the basketball court)....

People should realize a murder case is a very serious offense. The jury will react grimly to deception, lies and evasive stories. In a homicide case, you lie to the jury, you are toast. The lies, the lies, the lies. That is why the accused are in jail. You do not lie in a murder trial and get away ...

...it's that no-man's land in between where they're baited and engaged and argued with for a couple of days before they're asked to leave (even though everyone knows full well what they are) that I find difficult to stomach, gets a bit close to grandstanding sometimes for my ratrher weak stomach. N...

It seems like Steve Shay's comment section has become th new Cess Pit....

Oh dear. No-one ever took Mary H to see Peter Pan... Mary H: 'Since the subject of perugiamurderfile.org keeps being brought up on this thread, maybe it would be a good place for me to address this post from that site: Fiona Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:48 pm Post subject: Re: XVIII. MAIN DISCUSSION,...

Under the broad heading of "smart arse", "hostility" in posts, and "ammunition": Check out the comments from that Steve Shay (unremarkable) article last week. Look at last page (7), for most recent, and scroll up Skep, Modest Ex, Fly By Night and even tjt gets personal...

tjt and modest_ex. I enjoyed your posts Skeptical Btstander: "Anyway, the bottom line is that sometimes one has to step in and stop a problem before it gets out of hand." I appreciate this, although I feel that sometimes there is a tendency to step in to soon . Not everyone is in your pos...

I am intrigued by SA's theory about Papa and Raffy having a row on the phone that morning. Sounds like hang up the phone type row to me, given the timings. How often do you get cut off twice in the course of a phone call? Papa was never asked to testify about that call, was he. Shame. I think he kno...

Oh. Jools. Well truffled. I think I can see the extent of the problem now...

"Answer me one question (other than the above) and this only. Why do Amanda and Raffaele say they get up at 10 / 10.30 the next morning?" As for answering the machine. He is a well known poster to many media articles. Notorious some would say, for creating misleading implications , such a...

Ok, Catnip, I have apologized. Yet you still tear me down. Are you going to ask for an apology from all the others who have ripped on Justianin? I think not, because you are a bully. You prey on who think are weak. But guess what you fool... you are weak. You have no idea who I am, what I know, or ...

Not a wimp Fiona. Not at all. I think you just see both sides of the problem. Often it is very clear who is and who is not sincere. Michael has an instinct for this, but it can seem bewildering to those who don't share it. My knee-jerk is just to welcome people, others do this but want to know more ...

The new poster intro is an interesting one actually. Some people just arrive and fit in like they have been here for years. Others just always seem to get it wrong. The best example of this was LondonJohn. Now THAT was an intro...! Agree on the rewording Skep, it is how I would have responded. I pa...

The new poster intro is an interesting one actually. Some people just arrive and fit in like they have been here for years. Others just always seem to get it wrong. The best example of this was LondonJohn. Now THAT was an intro...!

Agree on the rewording Skep, it is how I would have responded.

Fair points made re mood, and (ahem) donnie. And, I might add, it is seldom me that answers these posters, as I don't feel confident enough in my recall of evidence, so it is not me that is having my time wasted! BUT, but, but...I just always think of the truly genuine person who might be put off by...

Sorry, Machine, I didn't join this site to play 20 questions with you. You're not the troll at the foot of the bridge. I would like to add with all due respect, but your reputation precedes you. Why not try to answer ONE of them? I think we are leaping a little prematurely with moodstream. I like t...

Led Zeppelin!!!!

Ah, Justinian has arrived on the JREF where he belongs: Hello! I'm new to this forum. I have been thrown off six other forums in which I've presented my arguments on the Amanda Knox case. It seems that the way most of the world handles free speech is to lock the thread or your member name. Anyway, ...

Still Life with Chimp, Pointer and Dunce Cap. nin-) YOUR WISH IS MY COMMAND nin-) what they meant to say.jpg Wonderful pik! I thought of you today when I saw a quote by Pablo P: 'Yo no pinto las cosas como las veo, yo pinto como las peinso' 'I don't paint what I see, I paint what I think...'

I'm happy to tell Justinian to piss off if no one else wants to. You really are talking total bollocks now Justinian... mul-) Hey Bard; I could not agree more. A new mantra for me is: Fool me once, shame on you Fool me twice, shame on me Stint, the first quote is not me. The second most certainly i...

My question is how did anyone hear the scream? She was being stabbed, strangled and asphiated at the same time. Furthermore, has anyone actually tried to scream when really scared? My loudest scream once sounded like a hoarse whisper. I thought someone had broken into my apartment. Yet, in your lif...

Have you seen Kevin_Lowes new avatar? That's just plain sick! It certainly tells us a lot about the sort of person Kevin is and just how Lowe he is willing to go. OMG, just seen this. Who do we write to. That has to be a new low for the FOA. How disgusting. Can we remove it from this site Michael n...

Have you seen Kevin_Lowes new avatar? That's just plain sick! It certainly tells us a lot about the sort of person Kevin is and just how Lowe he is willing to go. OMG, just seen this. Who do we write to. That has to be a new low for the FOA. How disgusting. Can we remove it from this site Michael n...

Even Mungo can't look... Bloody hell Bard, what have you been feeding him? That rabbit needs some exercise!. Tell Mungo "Yes, your bum does look big in that!" Oooooooo! How very DARE YOU! Stop dissing my bunny! He's a mature male, and inclined to....middle aged spread. That picture was ta...

I'd be spitting feathers if I was Amanda's defence lawyers, having a leaked Appeal document distorted on a public forum and words put in my mouth like that. It's beyond the pale...

Even Mungo can't look... Bloody hell Bard, what have you been feeding him? That rabbit needs some exercise!. Tell Mungo "Yes, your bum does look big in that!" Oooooooo! How very DARE YOU! Stop dissing my bunny! He's a mature male, and inclined to....middle aged spread. That picture was ta...

Even Mungo can't look...

From Brucie's introduction to his summary of the appeals: "A special thanks to Giorgio Gamberucci for his assistance with translation." So who is this Giorgio fellow? A quick Google search for "Giorgio Gamberucci" revealed a lot of crazy shit. A few choice quotes from http://twi...

Switching tack from amused to outraged. All this professor tower stuff, the Lombards, Stephen, the 'eagle' street cell tower and the myriad mistakes; clearly it's google translate. But it's goggle translate which they then have reviewed numerous times as they build their summary around it and yet t...

Where???

Re Piktors post about Amanda's e-mail. Amanda says , quote " I ran downstairs to see if they had heard anything the NIGHT BEFORE" end quote. Why couldn't something have happened in the early hours of the morning? Good point cape. Also, she was aware that the boys downstairs were away thou...

Well I never, under Steve Shay's blog I appear to have posted while I was fast asleep. SomeAlibi says big knives are sharp. That's it. How about that? Brilliant. Nice of them to get the capitalisation right though. My fans are the best! wan-) They're just jealous of your 'novice law degree' SA!!! I...

This is a bit harsh too! Why is everyone so much on edge?!! Justinian has only just arrived Itch, give him a chance! It can be quite intimidating making your first posts. Because since they have arrived, Justinian has been JAQ'ing off. I think she SHOULD have contacted the Embassy in fact, just so ...

Heheheheheh...spot on!

This is a bit harsh too! Why is everyone so much on edge?!! Justinian has only just arrived Itch, give him a chance! It can be quite intimidating making your first posts. Because since they have arrived, Justinian has been JAQ'ing off. I think she SHOULD have contacted the Embassy in fact, just so ...

Ok Justinian, I would like to ask you a question! How long have you been reading the board here before posting? Just interested...

This is a bit harsh too! Why is everyone so much on edge?!! Justinian has only just arrived Itch, give him a chance! It can be quite intimidating making your first posts. Because since they have arrived, Justinian has been JAQ'ing off. I think she SHOULD have contacted the Embassy in fact, just so ...

This is a bit harsh too! Why is everyone so much on edge?!! Justinian has only just arrived Itch, give him a chance! It can be quite intimidating making your first posts. Because since they have arrived, Justinian has been JAQ'ing off. I think she SHOULD have contacted the Embassy in fact, just so ...

I suggest you work on your reading comprehension skills before you attempt to engage in a serious debate with folks who have been doing this for years. This is a bit harsh too! Why is everyone so much on edge?!! Justinian has only just arrived Itch, give him a chance! It can be quite intimidating m...

Greetings Justinian. Amanda Knox could not leave Italy and it wasn't because she wanted to stay and help the police. It was because one of her roommates had been murdered. Filomena and Laura couldn't have left Italy either. Nor could Meredith's friends. The simple fact is that, based on the quote, ...

A locked thread raised the question of "Why Amanda didn't leave Italy". The site administrator suggested that the subject could be continued here. As I am currently reading "Murder in Italy" by Candace Dempsey, I though I could give a pertainant quote. At first Amanda did have a...

Sorry to wade in, but I think it is cy and Kivrin who are stirring things up by totally overreacting to something thoughtful said. And thoughtful is quite right, this is just DISTRACTING when all thoughts should be focussed on the excellent HARD WORK done by all the translators - which include thoug...

Do you know, there's been 276+ downloads of the report as I check it . And not one message of thanks from the pro-Amanda camp. If you are dealing with a miscarriage of justice, as they believe themselves to be, you welcome the source documents with open arms - they are so important. That Italy requ...

Fantastic work translators! You are wonderful! I am absolutely stunned by this - 400 pages...slightly lost for words. It looks like a few late nights ahead as we try to digest this info. The dedication to Meredith caused a lump in my throat...you have all done something fantastic for her. As a tribu...

I'd LOVE one bucket, and a psychic neck massage sounds good too, after a nine hour drive...

Nothing happened while I was away????!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaat!!!!, I just read about ANNE BREMNER!!!! Oh my ....ROLL ON THE FLOOR LAUGHING ICON....well, if it wasn't so tragic of course. Watching someone self-destruct is never good spectator sport tbh, but even so. She is not in a position to judge ANYON...

Oooo, just read TM's piece on TJMK. Excellent stuff! I like this listing technique. These things need to be laid out exactly in this way sometimes, for clarity. Nice work!

Back in Blighty, and feeling very relaxed after a lovely break. I saw a hare, and two red squirrels, deer, eagles and kingfishers. It was rather like living in the forest, rather than in a building, but wonderful to have the sound of the river running outside the window...ahhhh me...and I got a phot...

Just shutting down for the night and I saw Skep and piktor's replies! Thank you both so much! I have been able to copy your info onto a memory stick and can work on it while I'm away. A million thanks!

xxx

OT OT Dear Friends I am off for a two week break in central France - about an hour from The Loire. It is a beautiful wooded oasis, an old mill house beside a weir, and a wide and beautiful stretch of water that is home to fish and sometimes cows, who come down the water's edge to drink in the early ...

Like it or not, even if Knox serves 10 years, there is a pot of gold at the end of it. There is no way that she can ever confess, because too much is at stake. When the time is up, she will emerge as the wronged woman in this case and enjoy the fruits of the book and movie deals. Television will be...

I think I meant it 'should' be a private letter. A Raffy 'memorial' web-page? Whatever next...

Interesting that these people seem to have an obsessional need to publish their letters and writings at every opportunity. Now Vanessa's at it too. For the love of god, who cares what she thinks? Relative stands by criminal shock horror! Hold the front page! It should be private correspondence this ...

The FOA's main talking point is that Amanda is completely innocent because there is no trace of her in, what they term, the 'murder room'. They define this as the crime scene...so anything outside of that room for them, is not the crime scene (unless it's evidence left by Rudy Guede...so wherever '...

Hm. I would just like to comment on the "slippery slope" worry. I think that if certain errors on the colpevolisti side have been proven (such as the 112 calls - I know that some still disagree but I agree with bolint here, it has been proven and the prosecution made a mistake on this), t...

Yay for piktor!!! Squirrel alert indeed. Poor Mungo was all aquiver at the mention of a squirrel alert. I had to 'talk him down', and provide an extra lettuce leaf for him to hide under...He is demanding his 'right to freedom from oppression' now, and has requested a 'bunker' of some type. We have w...

I would just like to re-post this if that's ok with everyone. It is something I feel quite strongly about, and had only just posted when the thread locked. "Could I just re-iterate a point I made when the 'fighting back' debate first came up some months ago? Just to say that sometimes when peop...

Could I just re-iterate a point I made when the 'fighting back' debate first came up some months ago? Just to say that sometimes when people are attacked they are so paralysed with fear that they are unable to fight back. This is no reflection on them, it is a psychological involuntary reaction. Som...

So you're asking people to draw a conclusion based on a piece of evidence later altered by a consultant to the defence. stilicho, dear , you can take the picture posted by bolint , and match it to the sole on your own. I found your distrust a bit paranoid :) Do you know exactly how dishonest that i...